Microsoft held an ‘Official Xbox Podcast’ yesterday, featuring head of Xbox Phil Spencer, to talk about the future of the Xbox brand.

In the podcast it was revealed that four currently exclusive Xbox titles will find their way to Sony and Nintendo systems, though which four titles these will be is yet to be revealed.

Here’s some of what Phil Spencer had to say:

We’ve made the decision that we’re going to take four games to the other consoles.

I do have a fundamental belief that over the next five or ten years exclusive games, games that are exclusive to one piece of hardware, are going to be a smaller and smaller part of the game industry.

I don’t think we should as an industry ever rule out a game going to any other platform.

Phil mentioned how community driven games will be a big consideration for other consoles, to expand the player-base and give developers the opportunity to invest even more into these titles. With that in mind, many are speculating that one of the four titles is Rare’s Sea of Thieves.

Another consideration is to release smaller titles that have already reached their sales peak, which will find even more gamers on other platforms. Many believe this points towards Hi-Fi Rush being another potential game for other systems.

Microsoft have already dabbled in releasing titles on other consoles, such as Minecraft on Nintendo Switch, various Rare titles within the N64 app on Nintendo Switch Online, and multiple Bethesda titles over on PlayStation.

You can check out the full podcast below: